Curiosity regarding symbiotic cultures (kefirs)
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:16 amGreetings!
I've been reading the forum posts with some avidity now and i got a wealth of information and i have some practical work to do
Some of the topics that raised my interest even further were those events where users obtained dextran in their cultures, be it (mostly, from what i've read) ginger beer bug, pickling or other fermentation processes.
Dextran is described as a translucent slime with a neutral odor (so different then the stinky slimes) it is mainly produced by Leuconostoc and Lactobacillus spp. and is the most important ingredient in the forming of symbiotes.
I wanted to ask the community, did you ever obtain the "organized" grains or symbiotic cultures spontaneously?
The scientific literature on the topic of forming symbiotes is very scant at best but who knows more of this than a brewing community and practical work
I suspect that tibicos or water kefir can be obtained spontaneously from brewing the ginger beer bug which showed signs of producing dextran at first, with enough passings (or using part of the original bug and transfer it into a fresh ginger solution), over a period of a few weeks to months, it will (probably) form spontaneous symbiotic relations with other bacteria and yeasts and finally organize itself into grains.
I want to confirm my suspicions now
Cheers!
I've been reading the forum posts with some avidity now and i got a wealth of information and i have some practical work to do
Some of the topics that raised my interest even further were those events where users obtained dextran in their cultures, be it (mostly, from what i've read) ginger beer bug, pickling or other fermentation processes.
Dextran is described as a translucent slime with a neutral odor (so different then the stinky slimes) it is mainly produced by Leuconostoc and Lactobacillus spp. and is the most important ingredient in the forming of symbiotes.
I wanted to ask the community, did you ever obtain the "organized" grains or symbiotic cultures spontaneously?
The scientific literature on the topic of forming symbiotes is very scant at best but who knows more of this than a brewing community and practical work
I suspect that tibicos or water kefir can be obtained spontaneously from brewing the ginger beer bug which showed signs of producing dextran at first, with enough passings (or using part of the original bug and transfer it into a fresh ginger solution), over a period of a few weeks to months, it will (probably) form spontaneous symbiotic relations with other bacteria and yeasts and finally organize itself into grains.
I want to confirm my suspicions now
Cheers!